Re: info & physics

Difference between information and message

"Message" can be regarded as "system" under consideration.
"information" is one of the property of the concerned system.

Shu-Kun

mark burgin wrote:
>
> abir.igamberdiev@risoe.dk wrote:
>
> > Dear Pedro and Colleagues,
> >
> > Just a brief note about the physical background of information. I think it
> > is important to consider the possibilities of world's physical structure
> > which makes information transfer possible. As well as the physical structure
> > does make it possible the existence of atoms, of life and consciousness. But
> > in general this is quite far from the physicalist views. Also I would note
> > that information is not simply a selection (otherwise it would be a truism
> > that has no information) but it is a message about making selection. The
> > result of this selection is implicitly contained in the information by which
> > a selection occurs (that is why information possesses a feature of
> > 'anamnesis' (following Socrates and Plato): knowledge is a 'remembrance' of
> > a canon of perfection).
> >
> > Best regards
> > Andrei Igamberdiev
>
> The correct observation of John Collier (cf. e-mail of John Collier of Mon, 13
> May 2002 19:12:23 )
> that two people could interpret the same message differently
> shows that information cannot be a message.
>
> In a similar way, as
> two people could interpret the same data differently
> information cannot be some kind of data.
>
> In more detail, this is explicated in the paper (
> M. Burgin THE ESSENCE OF INFORMATION: PARADOXES, CONTRADICTIONS, AND
> SOLUTIONS)
> and in the comments to the paper of Floridi (Is information some kind of
> data?).

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