Re: Nature of Counting and FIS

Jerry,
let me propose some answers to your questions
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> Christophe:
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> Thank you for your responses.
> I remain somewhat perplexed concerning the potential relations of
> your MGS and subjectivity.
> When you say (Thu, 3 Oct 2002 22:59:07 +0200 (MET DST):
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> "All components of a signal are information. But an information is
> not always meaningful. Only information that has been produced by
> an Meaning Genarator System (MGS) is meaningful (and there can be
> an infinity of MGSs). The meaning is not "something else" added to
> information that makes it becoming meaningful. The meaningfulness
> of an information comes from the origin of the information."
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> I ask:
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> Can you provide an example of an MGS that produces meaningless
> information?
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It is the purpose of a MGS to produce a meaningful information
that will allow action implementation for the satisfaction of the
constraint S of the MGS. So it is not in the function of a MGS to
produce meaningless information.
It is to be noted also that action implementation can take place
only in locations where the constraint S exists.
We can call these locations "Domain of Efficiency S". So a
meaningful (S) information can be efficient (S) or not, depending
if it is located in the Domain of Efficiency S or not.
In brief, a MGS produces only meaningful information, but these
meanings can be efficient or not. (if you want to know more on
this, see I.3 in http://www.theory-meaning.fr.st/).
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> Can you provide an example of a message that has different meaning
> for two different meaning generating systems?
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Indeed, if different MGSs receive the same incident information,
they will produce different meanings.
take the noise of thunderstorm. It will generate different meanings
for a person on the beach or for someone in a house.
Or look also at pheromones left by ants to indicate a possible path
for other ants (the more ants pass on the path, the more pheromone,
the better the path for anthill survival).
Imagine an ant-eater that can smell pheromones. The message "density
of pheromones" will generate different meanings in ants or in
ant-eaters.
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> Cheers to All.
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> Jerry LR Chandler
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Regards
Christophe
Received on Wed Oct 9 22:58:22 2002