SV: [Fis] Re: What is the definition of information ?

Dear Shu-Kun

Then we need your definition of data also!

Where Shannon defined his information concept as a technical aspect or interest within the realm of human communication, Norbert Wiener and Schr�dinger brought information out in nature through thermodynamics, and from there into animals and machines, Gregory Bateson developed it to a mind ecology where cybernetic mind is based on this natural idea of information uniting nature and human mind in an evolutionary cybernetic world view; where information is 'a difference that makes a difference'.

Cheers

   Søren Brier

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Sendt: 30. august 2005 15:45
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Emne: Re: [Fis] Re: What is the definition of information ?

My humble definition: Information is the amount of data compressed.
The concept of information can also be clarified by checking its
connection with other concepts, like entropy, symmetry, distinguishability,
etc. There are several related papers presented at FIS2005 in Paris,
see http://www.mdpi.net/fis2005/proceedings.html. I am glad to see
this progress and increase in the interest in the clarification of
this most important concept. Cheers!

Best regards,
Shu-Kun

Dupagement@aol.com wrote:
> I am searching for a critique on the definition of the term:
> "Information". One definition, I am using is : Information is a thing
> which has the only property of conveying meaning. Thus a newspaper is
> /not/ information since it also has the property of being made up of
> paper, it has certain dimensions, it has print ink and so on. It
> /carries/ information. Shannon's theory basis its definition of
> information on probability theory. For a thing to be more probable
> compared to another it has to be different. This differentness means
> "different". For one unit to be recognizable from another it has to have
> some differentness.
> Can I get a critque of this? Also citations and directions to
> bibliography will be welcomed.
> Syed Ali
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