Re: SV: FIS discussion

From: Prof.Dr. Werner Ebeling <werner@summa.physik.hu-berlin.de>
Date: Sat 07 Feb 1998 - 10:30:31 CET

Dear FIS-Colleagues,
at the end of our Wintersemester I was overloaded with teaching and
examinations, so no time was left for
THINKING ON INFORMATION

So just a few comments

To Roberto:
>
> I also think that Werner's notions of free and bound information provide
> a nice framework for the analysis. One consequence of dealing with various
> levels of organization seems to be the need to consider couplings of free
> and bound information probably nested at those levels.
I think the real problem is, how one of those forms of information
can be converted into the other. That this is possible, is for sure, but
what are the rules (or may be the laws)?????

To Soeren:
I have some interest in Namur but must check first my calendar and my
ressources.
>The theories of von Foerster, Maturana & Varela and Luhmann has
>made an important impact here.
I had mentioned here also the work of Haken and others on the relation of
Nonlinear Dynamics and Information Processing

> > >
> > > The issues raised by Koichiro on Information and Physics are indeed
> > > very
> > > suggestive. I am trying to pursue the view that information is that
> > > which
> > > makes it possible for any process or agent to act in correlation with
> > > its
> > > environment, that is, to function. This evokes Weizsacker's motto,
> > > referred to earlier in the conference, which says that "information is
> > > that which produces information."
That is correct but may be only half of the story, then
Information has be created in the evolution of life, is there any doubt
on this statement ????????????????

> > >
> > > I find the view of information as something necessary for a process
> > > to be
> > > possible compatible with Soren's point in relation to the measurement
> > > problem in quantum mechanics, that information is "out there" as
> > > potentiality, manifested only by measurement.
I believe that information is a relation between 2 systems and
measurement is a special binary relation, so no contradiction?

> > > environment, which in my opinion makes information processing an
> > > integral
> > > part of the dynamics of the processes using the information, raises
> > > some
> > > issues that I think are worth exploring. One of them, in my opinion,
> > > is
> > > that this view makes Werner's distinction between free and bound
> > > information more difficult to discern, especially in the context of
> > > biochemical and physiological processes.
Here are most of the unsolved problems

Regards
Werner

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