Re: [Fis] "Ecological Economics and Information"

Ecological Eonomics and Herman Daly are identical for me.

I would love all of you/us to include the contributions of him and others
to a central question in a round table Lynton Caldwell initiated.
The question was : "Is Humanity destined---"
details and ways to find and dig deeper at:
http://benking.de/caldwell.html
http://www.benking.de/show-schau.htm

I myself asked about the ways and means in my contribution - which is very
much information pragmatics - wisdom or cyberculture oriented...
For a recent glimpse maybe see the TAGORE EINSTEIN COUNCIL link below...

cheers

HEienr

> Dear Jerry and Luis (and fis colleagues):
>
> Thanks a lot for the introductory drafts. My first impression is that
> Jerry
> has done a very elegant job connecting the new 'universe' of discussion,
> mostly eco-logics (but also some eco-nomics), with our basic information
> science topics. And, on the other side, Luis has put us --quite bravely--
> right in the middle of many unanswered questions and conceptual
> difficulties of the new interdisciplinary arenas around thermodynamics,
> economics, and natural resources evaluation.
>
> There seems to be a gap between both introductions, so, I would suggest
> some further efforts (not just by them, but mainly by us --the rest of
> discussants) to interconnect them... I confess not having found yet any
> non-trivial way (for instance, could make sense now returning to the
> historical comments appeared at fis a few years ago on the social origins
> and transpersonal purpose of the 'information machines' --entrepreneurial
> accounting systems-- that underlie the 'invisible hand' of markets and
> prices. I think that Luis Q2... Q6 might finally revolve about that. And
> it also connects with the reasoning started by Jerry on the dynamic flows
> of goods and services in economic systems and neighboring ecosystems. Do
> both 'workings' imply radically different and incompatible types of
> 'closure'...???).
>
> The new people who have joined the fis list especially for this discussion
>
> (some of them are among the pioneers in the development of these new
> interdisciplinary fields) are cordially invited to collaborate in this
> search for the crucial information conceptualizations. Actually, the
> success of this discussion depends on their active involvement.
>
> Well, in any case I have much enjoyed both drafts. Thanks!
>
> best regards
>
> Pedro
>
>
>
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