Re: [Fis] Meaningful Information vs Information

Dear Christophe

We have discussed this before. I cannot see how your 2) has anything to
do with lived meaning.I t is meaning without a subject, without qualia,
without experience and emotions.

crmenant@free.fr wrote:
>
> Dear FISers,
> Ongoing discussion about relations between information and meaning
> is interesting. Subject deserves indeed much development.
> Some may remember that we had last year exchanges that addressed
> the point via a systemic approach, trying to represent "meaning"
> as generated by a system.
> Let me remind in a few words the proposed approach, as it may
> bring some elements in current discussions:
> 1) A meaning is an information. It is a meaningful information.
> 2) A meaning can be defined as produced by a system submitted
> to a constraint when it receives an external information that has
> a relation with it's constraint. The meaning is that relation.
> 3) It is possible to define a Meaning Generator System (MGS) and
> the Domain of Efficiency of a Meaning (for meaning transmission).
> 4)The MGS is a building block. In practical cases, several systems
> having different constraints interfer together.
> Regarding Peirce, the MGS can be compared to an Interpreter (this
> point has been discussed in the Peirce-l forum).
> Short paper on all this at:http://crmenant.free.fr/ResUK/index.HTM
> I feel that such systemic approach can shed light on some questions
> adressed in ongoing discussions.
> Let us know your position
>
> Best
>
> Christophe
>
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