Thanks, Stan and others.
Very briefly, I was thinking on the economy (together with most of social
structure) as the "arrows" or bonds that connect the "nodes" of
individuals. Take away the arrows, the bonds, and you are left with a mere
swarm of structureless, gregarious individuals. Change the type of
connectivity, you get markets, planned economies, mixed ones, etc. Thus,
very roughly, in the evolution of social bonds I see a trend toward more
complex and info-entropic social structures: far less strong bonds, far
more weak bonds. Curiously, these complex societies also devour far more
energy and produce far more physical entropy (both types of entropies seem
to go hand with hand)... Well, and what are finally those social "bonds"
but information?
best regards
Pedro
PS. I would not quite agree with Pattee's view of constraints...
At 23:28 01/03/2007, you wrote:
>Guy -- Yes, you are right. But I was reacting to Pedro's "The realm
of
>economy is almost pure information." Some aspects of an economy must
be
>seen to be dynamics, not just all of it pure constraints (here I reference
>Pattee's 'dynamics / constraints' dichotomy). It is during the dynamics
>that physical entropy is produced. Of course, informational entropy will
>certainly be magnified in the constraint realm of an economy. As well, in
>order to set up constraints, dynamical activities would have to be
>undertaken.
>
>Then Pedro asked:
>
> >On the second track, about hierarchies and boundary conditions,
shouldn't
> >we distinguish more clearly between the latter (bound. cond.) and
> >"constraints"?
> S: Basing my views on Pattee's general distinction between dynamics
>and constraints, the relation between constraint and boundary conditions
is
>{constraint {boundary condition}}. That is, boundary conditions are one
>kind of constraint. Constraints are informational inputs to any dynamical
>system, and can be of many kinds.
>
>STAN
>-------------------------------------
>
> >Stan,
> >
> >Aren't all constraints a form of information? I see constraints as
> >informing the bounds of the adjacent possible and adjacent probable.
If
> >this is correct, then it would seem to render the economy as
"almost pure
> >information". In fact, I think it would render all emergent
systems as
> >pure information. Wouldn't it?
> >
> >Regards,
> >
> >Guy
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