[FIS] General remark[FIS] General remark
From: Igor Rojdestvenski <igor.rojdestvenski@plantphys.umu.se>
Date: Fri 27 Oct 2006 - 11:59:46 CEST
Colleagues,
Again a few sporadic remarks. We are always, as it seems to me, entangled in the matter-information
frame of thinking. Why do not we simply take that matter as such presents itself to us only as
information and through information (please give counterexamples if you want).
Hence, matter (biological, non-biological, whatever) is a derivative concept, for we can speculate
about it only indirectly through information we possess. A good "falsifying" example is
given by the General Theory of Relativity, which explicitly prohibits distinguishing cases of
accelerated movement and movement in the gravity field.
Hence, much of what we used to call "matter" is, in fact, enveloped in the concept of
information, as well as much more.
As to the Shannon and/or Boltsmann probabilistic information, this is not information as such but a
certain variable, used to measure information. It is the same as for measurements of matter we use
such variables as weight, volume, density and so on.
We should more clearly separate what is the subject proper, and what are our speculations about it,
our models of it and our suggestions on how to weigh it.
Otherwise we are little better than the student, which once gave me the following definition:
"The Energy Concervation Law EQUALS a sum of kinetic and potential energy".
Now about measures of information. When we talk physical, Shannon-Boltzmann definition kind of works
-- again not as definition but as the way to measure, evaluate, estimate. A little deviation, for
example the information contained in a certain text, and we are at a loss. Why? Because we can
measure
And to reiterate again. We are talking about information as a concept, or as a variable? If we talk
variable, we should be aware of the above listed limitations. If we talk concept, than
Shannon-Boltzmann is a misunderstanding, in the same way, as the object as a whole and the mass of
an object (in kilograms) are not the same.
Yours, Igor Rojdestvenski
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